Legislature(2021 - 2022)DAVIS 106

02/24/2022 03:00 PM House HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 292 HOME AND COMMUNITY-BASED WAIVER SERVICES TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 308 DEMENTIA AWARENESS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 308 Out of Committee
+= HSCR 2 DISAPPROVING EXECUTIVE ORDER 121 TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
            HSCR 2-DISAPPROVING EXECUTIVE ORDER 121                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:18:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Due to technical difficulties, a  brief portion of audio was not                                                               
recorded but  the information was  captured from  the secretary's                                                               
log notes.]                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ZULKOSKY announced  that  the final  order of  business                                                               
would be HOUSE SPECIAL CONCURRENT  RESOLUTION NO. 2, Disapproving                                                               
Executive Order No. 121.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR   ZULKOSKY  observed   that   it  seemed   odd  for   an                                                               
administration  to put  forward an  executive order  in its  last                                                               
year.  She asked whether  the department had considered a "relief                                                               
valve" or backup plan.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:20:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADAM  CRUM,   Commissioner,  Department  of  Health   and  Social                                                               
Services,  responded that  the idea  for EO  121 came  from long-                                                               
tenured staff  within the  department.  As  it moves  forward, he                                                               
said, this  staff will be  present to  ensure the success  of the                                                               
bifurcation of DHSS  into the Department of Health  (DOH) and the                                                               
Department  of Family  and Community  Services (DFCS).   He  said                                                               
there is also  stakeholder support.  He indicated  there would be                                                               
opportunity for  more legislative  oversight.   In response  to a                                                               
follow-up question, he gave examples of  how EO 121 could lead to                                                               
success with staffing, oversight, and internal functions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:26:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ZULKOSKY  requested a  list of metrics  be given  to the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:26:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER asked for clarification  of a concern Mr. Dunmire                                                               
had  expressed in  writing about  Section 133.   She  offered her                                                               
understanding that he had quoted Section 134.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:27:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANDREW   DUNMIRE,    Attorney,   Legislative    Legal   Services,                                                               
Legislative  Affairs Agency,  explained that  he had  addressed a                                                               
transitional  provision  which  grants   DHSS  and  the  two  new                                                               
departments the authority  to create their own  regulations.  The                                                               
granting of rule-making authority,  he explained, typically comes                                                               
from the legislature.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER requested  a response from the  Department of Law                                                               
(DOL).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:28:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STACIE KRALY,  Director, Civil  Division (Juneau),  Department of                                                               
Law, said  Section 133  is a  transitional provision  which would                                                               
allow  the  administration  "to effectuate  the  executive  order                                                               
through necessary  regulation changes."   She explained  that not                                                               
having this ability  would not be an effective use  of having the                                                               
power.   She expressed that creating  regulatory authority, which                                                               
does  not exist,  would not  be  taking legislative  power.   She                                                               
explained  that  the  authority  to  create  regulations  in  the                                                               
administering  of these  programs  exists under  Title  47.   She                                                               
stated  that DOL  would not  consider  this to  be a  substantive                                                               
change.   She  pointed out  that previous  executive orders  have                                                               
been similar concerning this issue.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:31:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SNYDER asked Mr. Dunmire  if he agreed that the language                                                               
has been seen before [in similar situations].                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:31:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. DUNMIRE  replied that  he does  not know  the answer,  but he                                                               
would research the issue and follow up to the committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:31:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FIELDS offered  a question  to be  answered at  a                                                               
later  time.    The  question   concerned  whether  the  division                                                               
directors had done an analysis  to determine an adequate level of                                                               
frontline staff.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
[HSCR 2 was held over.]                                                                                                         

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